I got these shoes from shoebacca.com because of the awesome price . I thought it was too good to be true . When I received them there was a loose thread on one of the shoes (in a greenish color so easy to notice . And on the other there was some mild yellowing on the shoe flap (which was easy to see) . For shoes that are supposed to be brand new I refuse to keep these in the condition they came in . Maybe I got a defective pair but what I wasn't aware of is that Canvas can get dirty very easily ! Other than that the shoes themselves are cool .