Dis-appointed, but my fault. I ordered size 8, D width. I have 3 other sets of golf shoes with the same size and width but the Florshiem shoes that I received were much too tight. I wore them twice, cleaned them up, and donated them to a start up golf program. There was another set offered, at the same price, but with a "W" width, but in black which I should have ordered. Florsheim is a quality shoe and I should have paid a little more attention when ordering. My fault. Shoes were well made, constructed and styled. Without hesitation, would order from Shoebacca again. Excellent service and prompt shipping.